Episode 119

"Cracking the Emotional Code of Real Marketing: A Conversation with Kevin Donlin of Client Cloning Systems"

Summary of "Cracking the Emotional Code of Real Marketing: A Conversation with Kevin Donlin of Client Cloning Systems"

In a thoughtful discussion about real marketing, Kevin emphasizes the significance of understanding the emotional reasons why people choose to buy from you. He suggests that these insights can often be found in testimonials and online reviews. For those just starting out, examining competitors' reviews and testimonials can also be enlightening. Kevin mentions that utilizing AI, like ChatGPT, can help identify themes and commonalities in these reviews, providing a glimpse into what customers value most, such as trustworthiness and efficiency.

Kevin underscores the importance of paying attention to emotional words and outliers in reviews, as these can be utilized in various marketing materials, such as headlines in print ads or subject lines in emails. He believes that you don’t necessarily have to create great sales messages if you can listen and identify them from your customers. Furthermore, he emphasizes that listening during conversations can reveal potential promotional themes and headlines that could be lucrative.


He shares an example involving software, which may not initially seem emotionally impactful. A client mentioned, β€œI can go home early” because of using the software, highlighting an emotional benefit that became a potent headline for a promotion. Kevin stresses that the words are there if you look and listen for them. Real marketing involves using the genuine words of actual buyers and being tangible and real in your interactions.


Kevin also discusses the concept of being tangible and real, referencing the book "The Revenge of Analog". He notes that people crave tangible connections and experiences, even in a digital age. He shares his experience working with records, highlighting the tactile and ceremonial aspects of using them, which contrasts sharply with the simplicity and impersonality of digital platforms like Spotify.


In the realm of tangible connections, Kevin also highlights the power of direct mail and thank-you notes. He shares that studies indicate people become more involved with tangible items compared to digital content. Trust is also higher with tangible items, which can be crucial in building referrals. He shares that a simple thank-you note can be incredibly powerful in delighting people and building trust.


Jerome "Mr. Implementation" Lewis agrees with Kevin, emphasizing that print books sell at least four times more than digital books and that younger generations prefer tangible items, including mail. He mentions a study that revealed millennials prefer tangible items because they legitimize companies. Jerome also shares personal experiences of receiving thank-you notes and newsletters from Kevin, highlighting that these tangible touches are impactful and memorable.

Mastering Real Marketing: A Conversation with Kevin Donlin on Making a Lasting Impact

This video features Jerome Lewis interviewing Kevin Donlin, founder of Client Cloning Systems. They discuss effective marketing strategies, focusing on client retention, referrals, and the importance of tangible, real-world touches in marketing to build trust and enhance business growth.

Conclusion

Jerome Lewis and Kevin Donlin explore the power of real marketing, emphasizing the importance of client retention, referrals, and tangible marketing materials. Kevin shares practical strategies to build trust, surprise and delight clients, and leverage real-world touches to create lasting impacts.


Key points

🎯 Client Cloning Systems: Kevin helps founders and presidents grow their businesses by cloning their best clients through effective client retention and referral strategies.

πŸ“ˆ Retention and Referrals: Focuses on serving existing clients well, staying in contact, and turning one client into multiple through referrals.

πŸ“Š Systematic Follow-Up: Emphasizes the importance of systematic follow-up with prospective clients using emails and print materials.

πŸ› οΈ Print Newsletters: Advocates for sending printed newsletters or materials monthly to maintain contact and build trust.

πŸ“š Micro Promises: Making and keeping micro promises to build trust and enhance referral opportunities.

πŸš€ Surprising Clients: Highlights the importance of surprising and delighting clients to increase referrals.

πŸ’¬ Referral Psychology: Understanding the psychology behind referrals and how to position yourself as a trustworthy solution to potential problems.

🀝 Emotional Reasons for Buying: Identifying the real emotional reasons why clients buy from you by analyzing reviews and testimonials.

πŸ” Analog Connections: The value of tangible, real-world connections and marketing materials to create trust and engagement.

🧠 Continuous Learning: Advocates for continuous education and adapting to changes in marketing and client engagement.

Summary

  1. Introduction: Jerome introduces the podcast and guest Kevin Donlin, detailing his background and the foundation of Client Cloning Systems.
  2. Client Cloning Systems: Kevin explains his approach to helping businesses grow by cloning their best clients through retention and referrals.
  3. Effective Retention: Discusses the importance of serving clients well and staying in contact to ensure retention and reselling.
  4. Referral Strategies: Explains how to actively seek referrals during sales conversations and onboarding.
  5. Systematic Follow-Up: Highlights the need for systematic follow-up with prospective clients using multiple touches.
  6. Print Marketing: Advocates for sending monthly printed newsletters or materials to maintain contact and build trust.
  7. Micro Promises: Emphasizes making and keeping micro promises to build trust and enhance referral opportunities.
  8. Surprising Clients: Highlights the importance of surprising and delighting clients to increase referrals.
  9. Referral Psychology: Discusses understanding the psychology behind referrals and how to position yourself as a trustworthy solution.
  10. Analog Connections: Explains the value of tangible, real-world connections and marketing materials to create trust and engagement.

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Jerome Lewis

Jerome Lewis is the author of the book REmarketing - Insider’s Secrets of Successful Advertising, Lead Generation, & Marketing Implementation For Real Estate Entrepreneurs.
He is also the founder and CMO of Digital Real Estate Strategy, a tech, and marketing agency that helps busy but serious real estate entrepreneurs implement, structure, and systematize their tech, lead generation, marketing, and business systems. Jerome has helped over 5000 real estate entrepreneurs from more than 40 states and 4 countries. Jerome has shared stages with some of the real estate industry’s best national experts including names ranging from Vena Jones-Cox, Krista Mashore, Marc Halpern, and many more.
Jerome is a bold introvert, father, and former IT professional. In 2021, Jerome won eXp University’s Instructor of The Year Award. He is also the host of the Real Estate Marketing & Social Media Mastermind, where he teaches real estate investors and agents tech and marketing implementation.